Article: The mayors--and the crises they had to deal with--were very different. But the challenges of governing New York are remarkably similar over time.(IN CONVERSATION: MICHAEL BLOOMBERG AND ED KOCH)(Interview)

THE CURRENT OCCUPANT leaned back on a plush red couch; his puckish predecessor sat in a stiff-backed chair. Michael Bloomberg and Ed Koch were in one of City Hall's private offices, talking seriously about the issues and enemies they've confronted as mayor, and the changes in the city they've led. But their tone was as warm and relaxed as old war buddies.'

New York: You've both dealt with crises that threatened the city's physical and economic survival. How worried are you by the current financial mess?

Ed Koch: Wall Street and the city will survive. The only thing to worry about is that the rich get preferred under all these programs, and the middle class comes after ...

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